wanted - race shift gear lever..

[TP#12]

If anyone knows of longer race shift levers straight off the spline then please let us know! I'd much prefer that, it's a lot better feel.

It still smarts having had to retire 3 laps in to my first race at Assen because the linkage came undone ...

[Earkle]

Originally Posted by TP#12

If anyone knows of longer race shift levers straight off the spline then please let us know! I'd much prefer that, it's a lot better feel.

It still smarts having had to retire 3 laps in to my first race at Assen because the linkage came undone ...

Where do you get your then fella? coz app. a dirsct linkage is just not available for monsters!!??!(or ss's), as the linkage is roughly 30-40mm too long! and nothing is available shorter, hence it looks now like a custom job!!! why do i do this to myself!!! oh well...

[TP#12]

Originally Posted by Earkle

Where do you get your then fella? coz app. a dirsct linkage is just not available for monsters!!??!(or ss's), as the linkage is roughly 30-40mm too long! and nothing is available shorter, hence it looks now like a custom job!!! why do i do this to myself!!! oh well...

Well I don't have one, I have a reversed normal linkage. I'd like one though.

On my 620 monster I had a direct one off the spline, it was from a set of 916 rearsets. Worked a treat, just depends where you like your feet and where your footpeg is positioned.

I can't run the same one on Gilps' SS because my feet are further back so I'd need a longer lever. I'd love to get a longer lever but it appears that we'd need to get one made which isn't going to happen. The new gearbox has been shimmed properly and actually shifts very sweetly so it's less of a concern. This one actually goes into nuetral without me having to stop the engine too! Woohoo!

[Matt-T28]

I might be wrong in saying this but unless you have the newer style engine like tp's, i dont think a straight lever off the spline would work as i thought the shaft didn't stick out far enough for a straight lever to clear the frame and be in the right place, like i said, could be totaly wrong.

[Gilps]

Originally Posted by TP#12

I can't run the same one on Gilps' SS because my feet are further back so I'd need a longer lever. I'd love to get a longer lever but it appears that we'd need to get one made which isn't going to happen. The new gearbox has been shimmed properly and actually shifts very sweetly so it's less of a concern. This one actually goes into nuetral without me having to stop the engine too! Woohoo!

Once we accepted that we were not going to run a direct lever off the spline we spent a fair bit of time getting the gearbox right and setting up the linkage to minimize free play. It's still probably not quite as good as a direct lever, but not far off.

[TP#12]

Originally Posted by Gilps

Once we accepted that we were not going to run a direct lever off the spline we spent a fair bit of time getting the gearbox right and setting up the linkage to minimize free play. It's still probably not quite as good as a direct lever, but not far off.

To be fair the bike shifts well now, I was very pleasantly surprised. I'm happy with it the way it is.

[Gilps]

Originally Posted by TP#12

To be fair the bike shifts well now, I was very pleasantly surprised. I'm happy with it the way it is.

You know the deal. If it works well it's down to Louigi. If it don't work or blows up it's my fault.

[Ghost]

This reversing of the lever is how we did our rearsets in the late 60's nothing new.

But depending where ones footpegs are and one fabricates a lever longer than standard, then slop or not that lever end is going to move significantly further than anyone would like.

[Gilps]

Originally Posted by Ghost

But depending where ones footpegs are and one fabricates a lever longer than standard, then slop or not that lever end is going to move significantly further than anyone would like.

Not really Phil. We worked out that the lever needs to be 1" longer than the standard one, which is the same distance that the rear sets move the foot peg back, which is why I think that they are made for use with standard pegs and not rearsets. 1" on the length isn't going to make a huge amount of difference to the travel at the toe peg point. If I could be bothered I would work it out, but I can't so I won't.

[Ghost]

In that order of magnitude I accept what you are saying Paul. Its just that if an unusual length was use to accomodate a far reaching footpeg or a short foot (10")

Then that toe point would be moving to excess and the conversion would not be worthwhile.

[Ghost]

The travel is R which is lever length times theta in radians

[Gilps]

Originally Posted by Ghost

The travel is R which is lever length times theta in radians

Obviously