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Old 12 Jun 07, 07:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fitting a Termi exhaust

I got a Termi 1/2 system without a kit ECU. Anyone know if a 749 will run ok with the stock ECU? I plan to get a Power Commander and having a custom map put on at a later date.

Q/ Is it a lot of hassles to fit (i.e. complete removal of seat, subframe back wheel etc.)? I don't want to spend a day putting it on and ended up having to remove it if the bike runs terrible with a stock ECU.
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Old 12 Jun 07, 07:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ive a 999 that was fitted with termi and race ECU, unfortunatly the Race ECU failed and I have retofitted the origional and have had the mixtured adjusted. It does run OK, but you are not extracting the real benefits of the Termi's.
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Old 12 Jun 07, 08:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This one seems to crop up so often. For road only use, the stock ECU set up appropriately is best as the race mapping pushes the peak torque and power too far up the rev range to be realistically useable on the road.

All down to personal taste I gues, but that's my opinion.

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Re: Fitting a Termi exhaust

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I got a Termi 1/2 system without a kit ECU. Anyone know if a 749 will run ok with the stock ECU? I plan to get a Power Commander and having a custom map put on at a later date.

Q/ Is it a lot of hassles to fit (i.e. complete removal of seat, subframe back wheel etc.)? I don't want to spend a day putting it on and ended up having to remove it if the bike runs terrible with a stock ECU.
Regarding your question chap, the Termig system will run with the stock ECU but I would get the PC as soon as you can in order for the system to run correctly and ensure the fuel mixture is set for maximum performance
With the Termig 1/2 system your cutting out the link pipe cat and the secondary cat which is located within the standard exhaust housing which means the bikes Co/fuel will need adjusting.
The 1/2 system is a 54mm which is the same as the standard link.
If it was the 57mm you was fitting then running a stock ECU would really be a 'no no'
Get ya self that PC as soon as you can.... :wink:

Regarding fitment:-

1) Remove rear seat unit by detaching from the tank (this makes it easier to remove the rear subframe and less likely to damage the seat paint work)
2) Unclip the rear loom (plug runs near to the rear shock)
3) Undo the top subframe/exhaust bolt
4) Undo the two bolts which are located where the subframe slopes down towards the tank (These hold the rear of the exhaust can
4) Undo the four subframe bolts (attached to the main frame)
5) Remove subframe
6) Remove heat reflector plate
7) Remove the two exhaust connection springs
8) Remove the tail pipe (Also remove the two metal exhaust gaskets which should be just inside the two connection holes at the back of the tail pipe as your gonna need them for when you fit the Termig
9) Remove the right hand side fairing panel
10) Remove the exhaust connection spring from the horizontal header pipe
11) Remove the frame connection bolt just above the R/H foot peg (Rear brake side)
12) Wiggle the horizontal link pipe out

Removal complete

When you come to fit the Termig system just follow the above instruction but in reverse.... :wink:

Hope this helps


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Ps.. You dont have to remove the rear wheel.... :wink:
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One thing to bear in mind is that there's a mesh gasket inside the receiving ends of the pipes, you might need to transfer these if the Termis don't have them. :wink:
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Awesome instructions...thanks XP!
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Awesome instructions...thanks XP!
No worries chap..... :wink:
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Well, I did the swap and went with XP's method. Its much more forward than those in the Ducati service manual (either requiring tank removal or to leave the subframe in place).

Everything went well except swapping over the tail light and fender bits are a real PITA. Same with the exhaust gaskets.

Bike now sounds proper with the Termi. Only down side is that I'll have to coast down the driveway before starting it in the early morning
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ive a 999 that was fitted with termi and race ECU, unfortunatly the Race ECU failed and I have retofitted the origional and have had the mixtured adjusted. It does run OK, but you are not extracting the real benefits of the Termi's.
Are you a member from overseas by any chance Rossman ?
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