Installing a Power Commander 111 USB

**jamesguschi** · 27 May 06, 01:59 PM

Well I got the PC 111 yesterday and got up this morning to fit it.

I fitted it as the instructions said and stuck it to the Battery with the Velcro stickers. Pic. 017. One warning though.... The Photo is wrong, put the PC on and up to the the battery retaining stop and as far right as you can, as when you go to put the two fairing panels together, they wont meet underneath when you try to connect them.....TW*T... The PC 111 stops them from meeting properly.

Then it is just a question of feeding the PC's wiring loom through between the two cylinders to the connector on the right hand side of the bike. See Pic. 021.

I was warned that there is little or no room to move this connector about. So I disconnected the airbox and pulled it away. If you want even more room take away the belt cover on the side of the engine.

The PC 111 has two connectors on the end of the loom. Disconnect the one from the box and fit it to the small one on the PC's wiring loom. Then connect the large one on to the original connector and that is it installed.

**jamesguschi** · 27 May 06, 02:26 PM

Now that the Pc is installed, the software was next.
I went to the www.PowerCommander.com and downloaded the map for a 999 with a Termignoni, Asymetric high flow air filters ( see the bottom of Pic. 027 ) it describes the name of the map exactly
I then put the CD software that comes with the PC into the Laptop and clicked ' INSTALL SOFTWARE ' Connecting the firewire cable from the Laptop to the PC is the last bit of hardware and you are all done. Your laptop will tell you, found new hardware

The instructions tell you that if the lights on the PC goes out 5 seconds after you switch the Bike on then you will need a 9V battery to power the PC. This I had to do. Pic. 026 shows a small duracell battery connected to the PC. The adaptor comes with the kit so no problem there.

Double click the power Commander Shortcut which will be on your desktop and up comes the programme. Click ' get map ' which is in your PCcmdr folder as you click on the different maps it tells you at the bottom what map it is. Click ' send map ' A box will say ' sending map ' and will tell you when it is sent.

One more thing... www.powercommander.com has a new free piece of software that you can download ' Accelerator Pump Utility ' save that in your pcmdr folder and double click on that when the laptop is connected. It will tell you A. Pump. U. is disabled or enabled. Not a 100% sure what it is but all the maps are running with this too.

In the programme there is a lot of things you can do. You can alter the fuel flow to each cylinder etc, by sliding the bar up to 5% to each one + or -.

Once it was all in I started the bike up and in Pic. 027 you can see the RPM's which is 1172. If you rev up the bike you will also see the throttle percentage aswell.

Anybody else got any tips on the software alterations please post them.

Jim

**Brian** · 27 May 06, 04:46 PM

Looks to bloody complicated for a technofobe like me

i just like to get on em and ride em

**jamesguschi** · 27 May 06, 05:18 PM

After all the Hoo Haa of getting this thing fitted, I took it out for a spin.
At first I forgot I had fitted it, it was'nt until I opened the throttle and gave it a bit of a gas that it seemed a lot smoother as it went through the gears. I did about 15-20 miles round the out skirts of my town. No problems at all. When I came home, I got to the top of the hill about 100 yards from the front door. I came to a small roundabout and shut off the throttle and it gave a splut, fart and a cough, then stopped. I started it and it ran on 1. 1/2 cylinders for the remaining distance. SH*T, F*CK, DAM and B*llocks. Got into my drive and shut it off. Not thinking or not wanting to, I switched her off and gave her a dirty look as I got off. Perplexed I took the helmet off and went inside. I had the Action Camera on and I did'nt want to think about it at all as I have a Track day on Monday. Down loaded the 5 video clips and went back out. Looking at her in absolute disgust, I thought I better get her in the garage and see what was what. I started her up to drive her in and she fired and ran perfectly on two cylinders.....

Ehhhhh. What the hell caused that? A bit of sh*t in the fuel. coil plug breaking down. The PC 111 usb. ?????????????

Something tells me it reset itself after I switched it off. Anybody had this as well? Is it a ECU reset job or what?
I will have to take her out tomorrow again give her a spin and see if it does it again. First Track Day in just over a day. If it is knackered, £170 down the sh*t house

**jamesguschi** · 27 May 06, 05:22 PM

Anybody got maps that are Non-standard?
Maybe I will try some different ones.
I have the European Termignoni sytem with the race chip and high flow filters No 504 in the 999 list in powercommander's web site?
Might be worth a try. I can take them to Knockhill and change them round.

**Brian** · 27 May 06, 05:59 PM

Was it wet out Jim

**jamesguschi** · 27 May 06, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Was it wet out Jim

Nope! Bone dry.

I have suffered from the ' front coil getting p*ssed wet through job ' before.

**jamesguschi** · 27 May 06, 07:10 PM

Somebody asked me to keep in touch with them on the A.P.U. If you go to the home page of power commannder.com you will see the free software there when you have downloaded it, it goes straight into your power commander tools at the top of the page.

If you click on it, it gives you all different values. Normal race days it says that they have their settings at:

1. Sensitivity @ 75%.
2. Fuel @20% more.
3. Engine Revolutions @ 15.

Here is the Pdf for the A.P.U.

**jamesguschi** · 27 May 06, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Looks to bloody complicated for a technofobe like me

i just like to get on em and ride em

I was very wary when I first heard about them.It is a s the other Guys say ......
A PIECE OF P*SS :wink:

**V90** · 27 May 06, 10:04 PM

You need to be methodical here Jim. You've got a problem after installing pcIII so it's likely to be related to that instead of coil failure etc. You should disconnect pcIII and run bike to see if problem is gone and then re-connect pcIII to see if problem returns. You definitely shouldn't be installing that accelerator pump software until you've got the bike running ok. The rule is change one thing at a time and you can find the problem easier.
I could see the ground wire in your pic but are you sure it's a good connection. A lot of electrical problems are caused by poor grounds.

**jamesguschi** · 28 May 06, 02:19 PM

I have not got a foggy as to what the problem was. I fitted the PC 111 and did everything spot on, hardware and software. I took it for a run ( 10-15 miles ) it went great, but 100 yards from the door it coughed and spluttered at a roundabout.
One thing I do remember though, about a month ago when I was just arriving at my mates house, as I shut the throttle off it gave a ' splut '. I have heard it do that twice before but 2-3 months apart. The last time was a month ago in Crieff just as I was coming to a very sharp corner on a hil I pulled the clutch in to go round and it just switched off.

Anyway I took the bike out last night and I gave it some stick. Not a cough, splutter, fart or misfire. Very strange.

If it was the PC 111 I think it would run like a bag of nails from the start, not after 10-15 miles. I do remember that someone else had a ' dying on him job ' something to do with the airbox or something drawing in air. I think myself that would happen if you were giving it some stick and not just about to stop.

One of lifes little mistery's

As long as it does'nt happen tomorrow on the Knockhill race track.......
JUST AS I AM ABOUT TO PASS ROSSI....... :wink:

**V90** · 28 May 06, 04:32 PM

Ok Jim but you hadn't told us the bike had spluttered before so it sounded to be likely related to pcIII install. Not that I was doubting your competence Jim

but we all make mistakes. Regarding problems showing after 10-15 miles this can happen because the engine is now at running temp and the ecu will alter the fuel to suit. Sometimes electrical stuff such as coils can work ok cold and show a fault when they heat up.
Apart from bike spluttering when you pass Rossi, what about when you're passing a long truck and are relying on the power to squeeze by before you meet the other truck coming the other way

A few years ago there was an article in MCN when a biker was killed after losing control and the immobiliser was blamed for cutting the engine.

**the man from del monte** · 01 Jun 06, 04:11 PM

I fitted a PCIII power commander a few weeks ago and the connector from the power commander to the bike's original ECU in the airbox has to fit into a circular depression in the bottom of the airbox where the connector is. it was such a bloody tight fit i had to file the plastic ridges down on the outside of the connector a bit so it would go in. otherwise OK. also i thought there was plenty of potential for water to get into the various power commander connectors (the insulation tape finished a few millimetres early and you could see wires) so it got to work was a hot glue gun and insulation tape.
made the bike run better. i have gutted my exhaust (£100 for the work) and run it on the power commander 'standard ECU, standard air box, termis' settings.

**998gsb** · 22 Jun 06, 10:49 PM

I have a 998s FE - I bought the bike new, and shortly after getting it one afternoon, it coughed and back fired and stalled whilst stopped at a set of lights. On restart, it started to run on one cylinder, and that advice that my mates gave me about dodgy italian engineering began to ring in my ears!!

No 2 exhaust got so hot it was glowing!. Hot nads on a summers day not a nice feeling!! I stopped and let the thing cool down, and on restarting it was fine - mentioned it to dealer at first service, and they couldn't find anything wrong.

Subsequently installed a PCIII USB, install was really easy -bought the unit at the Bike Show, and Dynojet even put the right map on for me. It has transformed the bike - it is so much smoother and more responsive - one of the best performance mods you can make for the price!

**jamesguschi** · 22 Jun 06, 11:07 PM

I am going to Ducati Glasgow to get my Suspension setup by a pro, nothing fancy just the settings sag etc. I am also going to get my machine sometime put on a Dyno. I have been told that it is best to get this done if the gearing and other things have been done. I have a 14/39 tooth sprocket setup on my bike and with the Termi exhaust, race kit and chip with filter and this gearing setup it will have to have its own dyno. Edinburgh is the closest as D. G. does not do Dyno. so I am looking forward to getting its own map. If anybody else has the assymetric pipes and 14/39 teeth this map will definately come in real handy. Will keep in touch.
M.Y.E I think is the company will let you know.