Spoiler!!!! Leguna Seca race. - Page 7

**onethumb** · 28 Jul 08, 10:33 PM

Alot has been said over the last few pages, heres my two cents.

Casey has proved that he can ride the duke fantasticly well, with great skill and passion.
Rossie has proved he can do the same on three diffrent makes of bike with world tittles on all of them.
casey has also proved that he is a prat for not shaking Rossi hand, that was terrible, he may of been upset and angry but when you race at 200 mph you should have respect for your fellow racers.
I was so dissipointed that Stoner thought this was acceptable, it was'nt and never will be. He should come out and say that he was wrong not to accept VRs hand, what message is sent out to junior racers around the world?
Some of you will agree some wont.
Thats my two cents.

**theoldbuzzard** · 29 Jul 08, 12:50 AM

Look back over the last 7 pages and, I think that you will see that Rossi beat Stoner TWICE on that day. Once on the race track and once in park ferme.

Perhaps the biggest difference between these two great racers is that Stoner will never understand Rossi's second victory....but, hell...give the kid some slack...it's not his fault that he was born a whinging Ozzy

**TP#12** · 29 Jul 08, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by theoldbuzzard

Look back over the last 7 pages and, I think that you will see that Rossi beat Stoner TWICE on that day. Once on the race track and once in park ferme.

Perhaps the biggest difference between these two great racers is that Stoner will never understand Rossi's second victory....

Perhaps that is Stoner's victory, because for Rossi to win the mindgames Stoner needs to engage in the war. If he doesn't, it's just rhetoric... Stoner has shown in the past that he can just focus on getting everything he needs done and racing, don't be surprised to see him focus and get on with what he needs to do and ignoring the mindgames.

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but, hell...give the kid some slack...it's not his fault that he was born a whinging Ozzy

**Imola Duke** · 29 Jul 08, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by theoldbuzzard

Perhaps the biggest difference between these two great racers is that Stoner will never understand Rossi's second victory

Thats why Marlboro and Repsol were prepared to double VR's salary for his services for 2009
Marketing dream.......
Stoner rep anyone ? Thought not...lol

**TP#12** · 30 Jul 08, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Imola Duke

Thats why Marlboro and Repsol were prepared to double VR's salary for his services for 2009
Marketing dream.......
Stoner rep anyone ? Thought not...lol

Stoner hater!

There's a few on here who have already made their own Stoner reps

**NedLudd** · 30 Jul 08, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Imola Duke

Stoner rep anyone ? Thought not...lol

They could tweak the termis to reproduce that particular whine...

**Imola Duke** · 30 Jul 08, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NedLudd

They could tweak the termis to reproduce that particular whine...

A bit like what this engine sounds like

?
At least it stops whining when you shut it down....lol

**Wazza** · 31 Jul 08, 03:02 PM

It was a great race won by a great rider. A great rider also came second (this time).
In the heat of the moment Stoner complained that there was some unnecessary risks taken, he did not complain that Rossi put him in the dirt! He said it was his own mistake!
“I made a mistake going into the last corner, and as I tried to come back on the track, I seemed to hit a big patch of, a deeper part of the sand rather than dirt, and I just lost the front. So I'm a little bit disappointed with that, but it was completely my mistake, and I have to deal with it. As for the race, most of the time it was very nice, very clean. Valentino was riding a great pace at the front, riding very well, very defensive.”

He did shake Rossi's hand on the podium! and he has shown enormous respect for Rossi. I think he has shown enormous maturity and self discipline to get where he has got at such a young age!

Well Done Casey

He has not called any one derogatory names, unlike some of the whinging self opinionated armchair critics on this forum!

**diamondbrit73** · 31 Jul 08, 04:29 PM

He has not called any one derogatory names, unlike some of the whinging self opinionated armchair critics on this forum![/quote]

Its not just on here! although there is different opions of MCN did anyone read the letters page this week!!! LOL

**royum** · 31 Jul 08, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wazza

He has not called any one derogatory names, unlike some of the whinging self opinionated armchair critics on this forum!

Oh you'll get sent straight to the penal colonies for that one!

Oops, of course you're already there...

**jph98** · 31 Jul 08, 07:51 PM

I watched this race in person and it was the most exciting battle i've ever witnessed!

Both riders looked to be riding as hard as they could (obviously), and it seemed as tho Casey would certainly have been the quicker of the two if he could get away from Valentino, but his Ducati was making some horrible shapes as he attempted to pass The Doctor using any method possible.

They are both exceptional riders, but IMO Rossi is the more exceptional RACER, Casey's ability to ride the Ducati at a pace that no other Ducati rider can get close to (so far) is undisputed, and he is certainly a worthy world champion, but he will never be a RACER like Valentino is, he will only be an exceptional RIDER, IMO.

It's a shame Casey dropped it on the last corner, as it looked like the end of the race was going to be even more exciting than the beginning, but it was still worth an 11.5 hour flight to see it.

Can I also say that the fans present at Laguna Seca shamed the crowd who attended the Donnington Park round. There were only ever cheers as the riders passed by, and even the Valentino fans (who were clearly pleased when Casey dropped it) didn't show Stoner any lack of respect when he finally got going again, unlike certain British citizens did at Donnington.

For all the Stoner supporters who are claiming that he might not have realised Rossi ran off-track at the corkscrew, and hence thought his wide line on the exit was intentional...... can i point you in the direction of this picture........

Yamaha MotoGP rider Rossi of Italy passes Ducati MotoGP rider Stoner of Australia on the "corkscrew" turn during the 2008 U.S. Grand Prix at Laguna Seca raceway near Monterey

If Casey couldn't see that Valentino was going to run wide here then he's in the wrong sport

Roll on the rest of the season!!!

**hjworton** · 01 Aug 08, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jph98

I watched this race in person and it was the most exciting battle i've ever witnessed!

My wife and I were lucky enough to go see the first of the 'new' Laguna GPs in 2005 and it was fantastic to be there - is there a better setting for a race circuit anywhere else ? I hope they have sorted out the car-park chaos - it made Donington Park look organized. We were stuck in the hire car along with thousands of others for almost 5 hours after the race ended, because the gate was locked !

I cannot believe we are still going on about the race from almost 2 weeks ago, let it go !!! :-)

**Cess pit** · 01 Aug 08, 07:17 AM

I watch Moto GP from my armchair because I love it and can't afford to go to the races.
I am self opinionated because.....suprise suprise, it is my opinion.

So that'll be me your talking about. we have a different opinion, whats your problem ?

**Keninsussex** · 01 Aug 08, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hjworton

My wife and I were lucky enough to go see the first of the 'new' Laguna GPs in 2005 and it was fantastic to be there - is there a better setting for a race circuit anywhere else ? I hope they have sorted out the car-park chaos - it made Donington Park look organized. We were stuck in the hire car along with thousands of others for almost 5 hours after the race ended, because the gate was locked !

I cannot believe we are still going on about the race from almost 2 weeks ago, let it go !!! :-)

Was fortunate enought to get to the race this year and the organisation was superb. I'd read some previous comments on car parking etc with some trepidation but wanted to go anyway so decided I'd tough out whatever problems I had. All fears unfounded in /out of car park with no wait / no prob. Excellent! In fact if you stay in Monterey there appears to be a very efficient shuttle bus service as well with minimal queues.

**AinSPS** · 01 Aug 08, 06:27 PM

There must be a reason why they are starting to call him Casey Moaner.
I think the most telling bit of TV was when they compared Rossi and Stoner live in a GP from the telemetry on each bike when they were battleing it out together.
Rossi was by far the smoother in every respect.
After the race Stoner complained his bike wouldn't handle, the back end was all over the place, it was the tyres, it was the power delivery. Everything but him.
It was total bollocks. It was obvious for all to see that Stoner was way too harsh and the telemetry showed it. He was full on trying to get in front and the electronic control of the bike was struggling to cope with his demands.
He had lost the edge in trying to better Rossi.
It wasn't the bike it was him.

Ains.