The 990's to make a comeback?

[749_MON]

According to Spanish sports website as.com five suggestions were put forward by the MotoGP riders to help reduce cornering speeds, during their meeting with Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta and Riders' Safety Representative Franco Uncini on Saturday evening at Brno.

As predicted, the options include the introduction of a control tyre and new limitations on electronics - albeit in the form of a ban on 'fly by wire' technology, which has removed a direct mechanical link (cable) between the throttle and engine, rather than the use of a standard ECU.

The full list of ideas, which includes a return to 990cc racing, will be presented to the Grand Prix Commission, are as follows:

1. Introduce a single control tyre.
2. Increase control of the throttle by the rider (by removing fly by wire technology).
3. Use narrower tyre rims.
4. A possible return to 990cc engines, but with a limit on top speed.
5. Stay with 800cc, but increase motorcycle minimum weight.

AS reports that the Michelin riders, who have struggled badly at the last two rounds, were unanimously in favour of a control tyre rule, with 'a majority' of the Bridgestone riders in favour.

The switch from 990cc to 800cc was made for the 2007 season in order to reduce top speeds, but the more nimble 800cc prototypes are able to corner faster- forcing circuits to increase the amount of run-off available, something that cannot continue indefinitely.

[sjr999r]

990's back please...sideways tyre smoking beasts,sort the men out from the boys.....stuff limit on top speed,no T/C....power power power...then it will be ACE

[giler]

Just get rid of all the electronic traction aids.

[Imola Duke]

Bring it on.... 990's get my vote and tc ban.

So honda want the rules changed again as they failed with the 800cc with pedders on board !

[hjworton]

Maybe rather than lowering the capacity to 800cc they should've raised it to 1200cc, banned electronic aids and introduced a one make tyre rule. I am not for capping top-end speed......

[TLMARK]

Yeah get rid of the traction control lets see if some of the new stars can really ride?

[The Budster]

Great idea = 990s made the most awesome sound.
I also agree with the no traction control argument.

Bud

[Cess pit]

990s.....limited or no electronics....brilliant.

I would predict Rossi to clear off into the distance.
The resurgance of Hayden, Melandri etc.
The demise of Stoner, Pedrosa etc

Should be for a lively debate.....

[Herb]

I think moving from 990 to 800 was a move in the right direction.

Next year they should reduce capacity again, say to 500cc. To compensate for the CC reduction make the bike 2 strokes, carburetted to reduce the costs associated with the electronics.

Done.

[royum]

Originally Posted by Herb

I think moving from 990 to 800 was a move in the right direction.

Next year they should reduce capacity again, say to 500cc. To compensate for the CC reduction make the bike 2 strokes, carburetted to reduce the costs associated with the electronics.

Done.

no, no, no, make them 600cc and four stroke air cooled twins, only made by Ducati, that ought to be a really cracking formula and really sort the Ollies from the Daves!

[749_MON]

Originally Posted by Herb

I think moving from 990 to 800 was a move in the right direction.

Next year they should reduce capacity again, say to 500cc. To compensate for the CC reduction make the bike 2 strokes, carburetted to reduce the costs associated with the electronics.

Done.

Excellent idea, even if it does sound like a quote from Gordon Ramsey!

[hjworton]

It makes me wonder how short-sighted Dorna are. Pretty much everyone involved in the sport predicted that the 800s would be highly strung and have huge corner speed - at least in comparison to the 990s. This is motorcycle racing, people are going to fall off and sadly get injured. Making it 'safe' is fine but it can only ever be so safe. There comes a point where the racing suffers and that - racing - is why they are all involved, and getting paid, in the first place anyway. Of course nobody wants to see racers getting injured but the next time they change the rules they should make it right, whatever that means. Electronic aids must be controlled, tyres must not be the deciding factor in races, racing fans want real racing back.

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by Herb

I think moving from 990 to 800 was a move in the right direction.

Next year they should reduce capacity again, say to 500cc. To compensate for the CC reduction make the bike 2 strokes, carburetted to reduce the costs associated with the electronics.

Done.

Is this to come around full Circle? 500 2 strokes were absolutely evil machines, that had a throttle like a switch. Would sieze at the slightest barometric oportunity.

A certain Mr Rossi I believe was the last recipient of that title.

[Herb]

Originally Posted by 749_MON

Excellent idea, even if it does sound like a quote from Gordon Ramsey!

No, there was no swearing!

Originally Posted by Ghost

Is this to come around full Circle? 500 2 strokes were absolutely evil machines, that had a throttle like a switch. Would sieze at the slightest barometric oportunity.

A certain Mr Rossi I believe was the last recipient of that title.

In our environmentaly aware age 2 strokes are not acceptable. By 2020 Motogp bikes will be solar powered. The british GP will take 3 days to complete because the sun won't shine.

[Tush67]

[quote=Herb;224418]No, there was no ******* swearing!

Edited that for you 'Erb. No, seriously, there's no need to thank me.